Scouting for Steelers Part 3: Farther Back on the Defensive Front
I covered the first half of the game from the standpoint of the defensive front in Part 2, and we’ll move on to the second half of the game, where a host of young guys had a opportunity to catch the eye of the coaching staff.
Here’s the list of snap counts again, with just the second half snaps, courtesy of Dave Bryan at Steelers Depot.
- Javon Hargrave: 25 defensive snaps, 5 ST snaps
- Caushaud Lyons: 25 defensive snaps
- Jermauria Rasco: 23 defensive snaps
- Mike Reilly: 21 defensive snaps, 12 ST snaps
- Devaunte Sigler: 20 defensive snaps
- Ricardo Mathews: 16 defensive snaps, 12 ST snaps
- Lavon Hooks: 15 Defensive snaps, 3 ST snaps
- Giorgio Newberry: 13 defensive snaps, 3 ST snaps
- Johnny Maxey: 11 defensive snaps, 3 ST snaps
- Daniel McCullers: 9 defensive snaps
- Khaynin Mosley-Smith: 3 defensive snaps
In case you’re wondering, I stated in the last post that McCullers didn’t play in the second half, but I lied. He had a few more snaps, because, as Charlie Batch said from the broadcast booth, the coaches want to get him in playing condition. How two more snaps does that, I don’t know. Which is possibly why I’m not coaching football…
For the first time in the game the Steelers defense was not up against Sam Bradford. Chase Daniels was the QB for most of the second half. The final “real” series (as opposed to two kneel-downs) was quarterbacked by Mcleod Bethel-Thompson, which is quite a mouthful.
Not too surprisingly, the second half actual base package was a four-man front. This was perhaps a way to look at a lot of guys at once. Or perhaps a way to minimize the weaknesses. Or perhaps because Butler (or Tomlin, or whoever) actually prefers a 4-3 setup. I did notice that at least a couple of the guys the Steelers drafted were pegged as 4-3 linemen in their NFL draft profile.
Javon Hargrave played about half of the opening drive, which was over seven minutes long. Butler subbed out the guys around him from time to time, but he was always lined up as the left DT, except for a single snap in that drive where he was used as a DE in a 3-4. (Caushaud Lyons was the NT in this set, and Mike Reilly was at the right end.)
At least early in the series Hargrave was demonstrating the motor and speed we’ve heard about. Someone was worried about him, because his offensive lineman took a holding penalty which pushed the Philly offense back to their own seven yard line. On the next play, a ten-yard pass to the running back, Hargrave shed his block and ran down the back for a stop. During this part of the series the lineup was always, left to right, Jordan Zumwalt, Hargrave, Ricardo Mathews, and Travis Feeney. The sole exception was one play where Vince Williams was subbed out for Lyons, oddly.
During this series I wouldn’t say the defense was wildly successful. The Eagles gifted them two penalties which pushed the offense back to 1-20, practically in their own end zone, and two plays later it’s 1-10 at the PHI 24. By the time Hargrave was subbed out, both the running and passing game were working just fine for Philly, albeit in small increments.
Hargrave would split the next series with Daniel McCullers. All three of McCullers’ plays were 3-4 alignment with Devaunte Sigler to his left and Johnny Maxey to his right. Those three plays were a four-yard pass, a four-yard run, and a tackle for loss for -3 yards. Johnny Maxey was the man of the hour for that one.
The three snaps Hargrave had on that series were with Jordan Zumwalt to his left, Ricardo Mathews to his right, and Travis Feeney at right end. The results were pass for nine yards and two incompletions, forcing a punt.That series would be the last snaps for McCullers, for real this time. Hargrave played one more snap in the fourth quarter (incomplete pass.)
I will just note at this juncture that the signing of former Chargers DE Ricardo Mathews is looking rather better than the other former San Diego defensive player the Steelers signed, Cam Thomas… For that matter, they’ve gotten more value out of Mathews than Ladarius Green so far as well.
A guy who played a substantial amount of snaps but doesn’t appear on the list above for some reason is Jermauria Rasco, who the Steelers had signed only three days before. Rasco played defensive end at Louisiana State, and the Packers signed him as a UDFA in 2015. They cut him at the final cut to 53. Tampa Bay picked him up after the 2015 season but cut him in April. He has been listed in the NFL as an outside linebacker, which at 6’3, 252 pounds isn’t too surprising. The Steelers just have him listed as a linebacker. He played, according to my count, two snaps in the first half and 16 snaps in the second half on defense. He was always lined up on the left end of a four-man front.
As for the fourth-quarter guys, I’d love to say that someone really stood out, but the guy who stood out will come up when I cover the inside linebackers. Johnny Maxey was in for another stuffed run (along with Tyler Matakevich.) The sole Steelers turnover was a forced fumble, but that was courtesy of the defensive backs.
Jordan Zumwalt, the new guy (Rasco,) Caushaud Lyons, and Devaunte Sigler got the lion’s share of the snaps. Lavon Hooks got a half-dozen or so snaps, as did Giogio Newberry.
If I had to venture a guess, which I suppose is the point, I would say that, barring injuries, there really isn’t any question that Daniel McCullers is the official starter at DT. Lavon Hooks is listed as his backup, but I can’t help but think the Steelers would love to have Javon Hargrave take that job. It’s obviously a huge bonus if you have a guy you can put on the field on every down if necessary.
As for the DEs, Ricardo Mathews is listed as Cam Heyward’s backup, with Lyons behind him. I get the impression that the Steelers like Mathews, but they certainly gave Lyons a long hard look. L.T. Walton is listed as the backup, but he didn’t play due to a shoulder injury. You can’t make the club from the tub, and Johnny Maxey certainly took advantage of his snaps. He is, however, a very long shot. I’m hoping he makes it onto the practice squad.
In general, I don’t know how much to read into the enormous preponderance of four-man fronts. How many times it was a nickel package and how many times it was a true 4-3, I don’t know, and it may be tough to find out. I’ve discovered it’s even harder to see who is lined up behind the front line than who is in it. But the very first defensive snap was Tuitt, McCullers, Heyward and Harrison in the front, Moats, Shazier and Timmons behind them, and Gay, Cockrell, and two safeties, presumably Mike Mitchell and Robert Golden. I could not get a look at either guy, even in the milling about after the play. In case you’re wondering, that was a four-yard completion to Darren Sproles, who was taken down immediately by Timmons.
to be continued